Rob's mass email #2 (Mild Spoilers)

Rob Thomas: September 14, 2005

Rob's second mass email. Has answers some of the most common questions people have emailed him.

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Hey gang,

I spent the morning catching up on the past few weeks of e-mail, and as I did so, I kept a list of the most common questions. I'll give the responses in no particular order.

Did you see what Joss Whedon posted on about Veronica Mars?

I did. Several people sent me the link. His extraordinarily generous comments really made my week. I sent him a thank you e-mail, and he sent me back a note that said that, in watching Veronica Mars, he's come to understand, better, the fervor of Buffy fans.

The things he complimented about our show -- the plotting, the dialogue, the relationships, the acting are all elements I've admired in Buffy. Joss' comments actually meant so much to me that I e-mailed my parents the link though I'm quite sure they don't know who he is.

I've also put Season 2 of Buffy in my Netflix queue. I think I never let myself get fully-hooked by Buffy for the same reason that I feel a lot of people don't watch Veronica. By the time the enthusiastic word-of-mouth reached me, I felt like I'd already missed the bus. I was afraid of being so far behind in the mythology that I couldn't follow the ongoing storylines, though I would occasionally see episodes and admire the snappiness, the pacing, the angst.

For those of you who didn't see Joss' post, here's the link:

And then “ you heard it here first “ Joss has agreed to guest star on the show. We're firming up plans to have him play a testy, rental car manager in episode six.

Did you see what Kevin Smith posted on his personal blog about Veronica Mars?

I did. It's also very cool. Kevin is appearing in episode three as, of all things, a convenience store clerk. He's fantastic in the episode. Kevin did this Veronica Mars episode as he's a friend of VM producer Dan Etheridge. He hadn't actually seen the show. He watched the episodes later and really dug them, which is extremely cool for us.

How can I get my hands on that noir movie poster?

Honestly, I don't know. I made enough for the cast and crew as a wrap gift last year. Then, when we did Comicon, Warner Brothers asked permission to print another 500. I know they can be found on E-bay, but I think this limited run may have made them pretty scarce. I've got a couple extra, but I'm holding onto them.

At what point in Season 1 did the writing staff decide to put Logan and Veronica together?

We were probably a third of the way into the season, when we started moving in this direction. We just loved the two of them on screen together. Honestly, the death of Lynn Echolls was motivated by our desire to find a way that we could get Veronica and Logan together long enough and to get Logan vulnerable enough, that we could imagine a romance coming out of it. Lisa Rinna knew when she was hired that she would have a short lifespan on the show.

Did we ever seriously consider having Duncan/Veronica be related?

Yes, but not when it became a UPN show. The original pilot script was a degree darker, pushing it further into Twin Peaks territory, and I thought that if I sold the show, it would be to a cable network like HBO, Showtime or FX. Had it been on those networks, I would've entertained that notion further.

How does my wife know Charisma?

Charisma was a frequent customer at the children's bookstore Katie managed, and one of Katie's best friends in Charisma's nanny/babysitter.

How do I feel about spoilers?

Good question. There are certainly people on our team and at the studio and network who get angrier with them than I do. I know that if the answer to the who killed Lilly Kane storyline had been all over the internet, I would've been upset. When the spoilers are put in a clearly defined link that allows users to avoid seeing them, they don't bother me that much. I can't say I understand the people who are spoiler junkies, however. I'm a huge fan of certain shows, and the last thing I would want would be to know what's going to happen next.

That said, we are working a little harder at spreading disinformation this year. I believe a lot of our spoilers come out of our audition scenes. This year, we're creating fake audition scenes that don't really exist in the show or we're changing names around, so that the wrong information will filter into the spoilers. It's a mystery show. I still want to be able to surprise people.

Someone who worked as an extra last year “ who has since been fired “ started posting behind-the-scenes info and details from scenes last year. This year, if I feel like people are getting too much correct information, I will consider having the VM interns start logging into the various sites in order to dilute the actual info with fake info.

I suppose another thing that bothers me, a bit, is that spoilers only give the plot. It doesn't deliver the execution. I will read people up in arms about something that they haven't seen on the show yet. Maybe these posters will still hate it, but I'd like to get a fair shake at pulling it off. Sometimes I think the spoilers poison the well, and people decide they hate a plot point without giving us a chance to make it work.

This kind of segues into another topic:

I've received dozens of e-mails about how our "love triangle" is going to destroy the show and turn VM into soap opera crap. Perhaps. Or, maybe we'll pull it off in interesting ways that make it delicious. All the phrase "love triangle" indicates to me is that we've got three people who have/had romantic interest in each other. Two of them are best friends. It's bound to have complications.

Am I willing to put the shooting scripts on my website?

I'll try to look into this, though I don't think Warner Brothers, who, technically, owns the material, will go for it. They might want to publish the scripts some day -- like they did with Freaks & Geeks – and they won't want people to be able to pull them down for free. Also, I wouldn't feel comfortable posting writers' scripts other than my own.

Is there a soundtrack coming out? If so, when?

Yep. There is a soundtrack coming out the last week of September. The soundtrack will include two of the most highly-sought, difficult-to-find music queues from Season 1. “Momentary Thing” by Something Happens, which played over Logan and Veronica's first kiss. And, “Lily Dreams On” by Cotton Mather which played over Veronica's dream of Lilly in the swimming pool.

Will you please Podcast a commentary track from Season 1.

I think I've received in the neighborhood of 20 e-mails telling me that the EP of Battlestar Gallactica did this suggesting that I do the same. I'm going to try. I imagine that I would do a commentary track for the pilot and post it here on this site. I am so, so busy right now that I'm unsure when I'd get to it, but I'll make it a goal to have this posted before the DVDs come out.

One hesitation? Like most people in America, I'm not a big fan of my own voice.

Are you really seeking submissions from unsigned bands?

Yes. E-mail MP3s to me at Also send along band contact information. Please don't send me links to bands' websites. Send two or three songs. Don't send me an album's worth. I've already received around 40 songs, and there are a few that I feel confident that I'll use in the show. We'll pay the band $1000 if we use their song in the show. I'm promising to use at least five of these songs this year.

Can you tell me when/if Veronica Mars will be airing in Canada, the U.K., Israel, etc?

I can't. I know that Warner Brothers has sold foreign rights all over the world, but no one tells me when it begins airing in a foreign country. I tend to learn that it's airing abroad when I get e-mail from fans who see it overseas.

How did we end up on CBS?

Viacom owns both UPN and CBS. All thanks go to Joel Silver for convincing Les Moonves to air VM on the bigger network. Actually, thanks also to Les Moonves for agreeing to do it.

What is the title song?

The main titles song is The Dandy Warhols, “We Used to Be Friends” from their album, Welcome to the Monkey House.

Tiny, mini-spoiler alert… Don't read the next sentence if you want to be completely virginal going into season 2.

Dandy Warhols lead singer Courtney Taylor Taylor will be singing karaoke in episode #3.

What day is our season premiere?

Sept. 28th.

We saw the proposed cover art for the DVD at Comicon, and we hate it. What's up with that?

Relax. I listened to the outpouring. We switched DVD and Soundtrack covers to the shot of Veronica and the boys at the pier from the “Get A Clue” campaign.

Will the DVDs include the original music?

I'm happy to report that they will.

What grades are the characters in…?

This year, all of our series regulars are seniors, except for Beaver who is a junior. (Lilly Kane was a year older than Duncan. They are not twins.)

Why did Logan have Dick and Beaver lie for him if he didn't kill Lilly?

Logan knew how it would make him look. The jilted boyfriend drives back in the middle of the night to confront his ex. She's murdered on that day. Logan would've had a hard time convincing anyone he was innocent.

Will the DVD be dubbed in Spanish?

I'm sorry, but I don't know. Warner Home Video would know the answer to that.

When will the cast be making an appearance in my town?

Again, sorry. I don't know. My head is so cluttered already that if I tried to keep track of all the marketing, promotions, press and appearances, it would simply explode. I do know that when our cast does hit a town, the network and studio P.R. machines do a terrific job of promoting it.

Can you tell us all of the character's birthdays?

No. But I'll tell you Veronica's is in August.

Will you release a collector's DVD later?

No plans are in the works, and, unfortunately, this is not my call. Warner Home Video will look at the sales of the first DVD release and base any future decisions on those figures.

Will we see Amanda Seyfried in year 2.

There are no plans, though we love Amanda, and if there's a story line in which either a flashback of Lilly or a dream sequence of Lilly would be appropriate, we would probably ask her to do it. I'll admit there's a large part of me that so loved her final scene in Season 1 that anything new we do might take away from that last image.

All my best,


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1) lisa whiston, 02/02/2008 21:00
cuba cuba cuba:-)

wondering if you and carlos snatana would do a concert in havana[cuba] on the malacon..the cuban folks would love it...

l know you would probably have to pay a fine...but it would be worth it ..

coming to see your show in adelaide you could give me your answer then..hehehehe

big hugs...
2) Rebecca, 03/06/2008 13:16
Can you write a book to end the Veronica Mars series if not a special episode to tie things up? It is really unfair to just leave things hanging... Thanks!
3) mj, 10/12/2008 01:12
Yeah, I'd like to see (or read) more of the story myself. I have all the DVDs and I just have to know what becomes of Veronica and her dad and if Logan remains tragic or redeems himself.

Ironically, I feel partly responsible for the cancellation because the first episode of VM I watched on tv was actually the season 3 (and sadly, the series) finale.

I didn't realize the depth and quality of the show, its thematic and character arcs, and the stellar cast until late in March of 2007 when I was perusing the Whedonesque site and finally broke down and deferred to the genius of Joss and decided to watch 'just an ep or 2' of VM before making up my own mind and dismissing it. I turned to downloads and within minutes I was blown away by the substance and depth.

I was also a strictly syndication viewer of Buffy as that was a bandwagon I resisted as well, for many of the same reasons (a blonde HS chick in cute outfits battling demons? No thanks!)

Maybe VM will come back as syndication and the Warner Bros people can put some good, quality PR/publicity people to talk about the show's critical acclaim a bit.

In the meanwhile, I've reformed my approach to tv series premieres - thanks in large part to the acquisition of tivo, which makes it both possible to sample from a wider range of material earlier on and to maintain viewership of the decidedly good ones over the course of a season.

Now I am in the process of catching up on Lost and rehashing some BSG, while also eagerly anticipating Jan 2009's Dollhouse. And don't forget the power of screening parties with the friends! To bring others in for a taste. I vow never again to miss a brilliant gem of a show.

PS - Does anyone know, is Mad Men worth the hype?
4) Kristin, 01/06/2009 14:31
MJ, I feel like I am in the same boat as you. My best friend tried to recruit me as a VM viewer back in 2004, and at the time I was in my first year at University, I didn't have cable, I didn't know you could watch tv online yet... and so I just never got into it. Fast forward 4 years into the future and I am totally 100% irrevocably HOOKED on Veronica Mars. To the point where I shut myself up in my room for 3 weeks over the Christmas break and did nothing but watch Seasons 1 and 2 over and over and over again. If only I had learned early on to trust my friend's judgment, then maybe I could have helped spread the word about what a great show it is/was, and it might still be on the air today.
5) sean micheal, 03/18/2009 01:36
hey rob...ive been wanting to email you for about, 4 hours now. i searched on google but couldnt find ur email adress,

i wanna ask, have u heard the the bullshit on youtube about your hidden messege in "unwell"
it scared the shit out of me, i cryd and woke up my mom and we talked and drank water.also i searched for your auto biography but none came up in detail.
6) medical transcribe, 02/08/2011 00:26
really first time i heard this. It really scares me.
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