Jason Dohring Interview

Jason Dohring: So did you guys have any questions or anything or are you just sort of checking it out?
Spadada: You're actually the first person we've interacted with, except for Rick. We saw Rick briefly when we first came in.
Spacecitymarc: Is there anything everyone always asked you about that, you're like, "Why does everyone always ask me that? I've got so many stories."
Jason: No, they usually cover quite a bit. I don't know. Is there anything you've thought of where you're like, "Why the hell didn't they ask him that?"
[Crickets chirping]
Wyk: I know! Rob said that this season because Ryan is more the comic person, you've had to mellow out. How do you feel about that?
Jason: I think it's harder to play the straight guy for me because I'm always like trying to change the dialogue to make it cool or something like that, but when you're the straight guy, you just kind of got to play it normal or whatever, and then he's the funny guy or whatever, so it used to be that I was that with Duncan, you know what I mean, but now that I kind of switched into that other role of the boyfriend on the teen show, I have that with Ryan, you know what I mean?
Spacecitymarc: Do you prefer it one way or the other?
Jason: I think I prefer it the other way because it's more interesting, like especially acting-wise. I guess because you can just check, you can do different things and, you know what I mean? It's funny to have the cool, saying your lines and stuff like that.
Spadada: I always loved that, the Duncan/Logan scenes in season one.
Jason: Oh, yeah?
Spadada: I always thought, first of all, that Teddy's acting, that you guys raised each other up or whatever, but we don't get to see a lot of that now, so that's why it was cool that you and Dick got to do a little more serious work last time. On 13, of course, the episode with Heather, Juliette Goglia's character. Are you guys going to actually meet on Fridays to play Mario Kart?
Jason: I think it's off-camera.
Spadada: [LAUGHTER] So much is off-camera on Veronica Mars.
Spacecitymarc: I'm was gonna say, we don't see you brushing your teeth. But we did, actually.
Jason: Yeah, right.
Spadada: There was much discussion of you with your toothbrush, actually.
Jason: Oh, really?
Spadada: Because you threw it on the couch. I mean, only Logan would throw a toothbrush on the couch.
Jason: Oh, right.
Spacecitymarc: That wasn't how I was told by the dentist to use an electric toothbrush.
Jason: Oh, really?
Spadada: So are there things without spoiling too much that you're... I know that you have said in interviews that you were getting a little, you know, the mopey Logan was getting a little boring. Have things picked up? Like is it really a turning point that we saw, with the apple?
Jason: Yeah, a little bit, you know, and then it's just, I don't know how they're going to write things or whatever, you know, but I think, I've heard in the last couple, there's some getting-back-to-my-roots things, basics, kicking people's asses, whatnot, so we'll see how that goes.
Spadada: Was beating up the car fun?
Jason: Yeah, that was unbelievable, because that was one of the ones I came in for just that scene. [LAUGHTER] I got here at six, smashed the car, and went home. [LAUGHTER]
Spadada: I thought Ryan Devlin was really great.
Jason: Yeah, he was cool. He's a cool guy, too.
Spadada: You see him on like Entertainment Tonight or whatever, and there was no way I could picture him acting. And then he had talent. It was really great to see.
Jason: Yeah. And he tests for more shows than anybody I ever heard of, too. Three, four a year, every year, you know, something like that. It's cool.
Spadada: He's got the look.
Jason: He's got the look!

Polter-Cow: Like Roxette?

[MI.net team laughs nervously hoping Polter-Cow is not about to start singing Roxette's "The Look." Marc eggs him on, but alas, no one sang.]
Spadada: We don't want to know too much.
Polter-Cow: We're going to end up spoiling ourselves for basically every single episode that's left, but in little parts. [LAUGHTER] It's kind of hard to visit without doing that, so...
Jason: Yeah, totally.
Spacecitymarc: Yeah, and I'm somebody who's like specifically... I don't even watch the commercials, I don't watch the previews, I just...
Jason: Just the show, huh?
Spacecitymarc: Yeah, because I like to be fresh, but apparently it's kind of impossible and pointless for me to go through this week going, [covers eyes] "NO, no!"
Jason: You probably wouldn't have enjoyed it as much, too, you know? Blindfolded and with ear plugs.
Spadada: It's weird, though, that you can't hear the things when you're watching them. I never really thought about that, that it's all in the headphones.
Jason: Yeah, you have to do that because they have the video cart so far away usually.
Wyk: Yeah, Jon Moskin was nice. He traded the headphones around.
Jason: Oh, that's awesome!
Spadada: Yeah.
Jason: That's cool...I talk so damn quiet anyway, nobody can hear me even if they're in the scene with me. [LAUGHTER]
Wyk: Why do you talk so quiet?
Jason: I don't know. It's just kind of the way—
Wyk: Is it your natural voice?
Jason: Yeah. I know Harrison Ford does that, too. Like really, you can barely hear him. I don't know. Not really my natural voice. I guess when I start to do it, that's just kind of how it comes, you know. Sometimes.
Spadada: Don't do theatre, or if you do theatre, you'll learn a new skill.
Jason: No, I'd have to do a five-seat theatre.
Spadada: [LAUGHTER] Like this food court!
Jason: Yeah, exactly.
Spadada: Little poetry reading or something.
Jason: A microphone, speakers, stuff like that.
Wyk: Do they ever tell you, "Excuse me, can you do that scene, but louder?"
Spacecitymarc: "Can you speak up?"
Jason: "What?" They always tell me that, stop mumbling.
Spadada: So we've heard so much that directors aren't really important, I guess is the word, on TV, that's it's more of a writers' medium and whatnot, but Kristen had said before that she has such a great relationship with John Kretchmer and that, you know, she really loves when she works on set with him. Have any of the directors really kind of stood out for you?
Jason: Well, I like Nick [Marck]; I think he's very good. He moves very fast, but also like keeps the quality. I think that, let's see...Michael Fields I like.
Spadada: I think he gets great work out of you.
Jason: Yeah.
Spadada: I really do. I mean I've heard weird rumblings about relationships on set or whatever, from people online, but I think he gets great work out of you and Kristen. It's different than a lot of other directors.
Jason: Yeah, it's funny, isn't it?
Spadada: It is.
Jason: But it's true, yeah. I like him, I liked Harry Weiner; I thought he was cool, because he gets inside, you know, and he talks about arcs and stuff like that throughout the thing... Yeah, it's nice, man. It's nice. And then, who did the episode 21 of the first season?
Polter-Cow: That was Marcos Siega.
Jason: Yeah!
Spadada: Oh, he never came back.
Jason: No, because he was doing features and whatever, but he was fucking dope. [LAUGHTER]
Spadada: Yeah, what an incredible, I mean, that was the first episode, without Victor Hammer and somehow he made it look like it wasn't. You know, like the cinematography was so dark and noir-ish.
Jason: Yeah. I thought Victor did some of that stuff, though, yeah?
Spadada: He left after 20.
Polter-Cow: Yeah, for My Name is Earl.
Jason: I liked him, though!
Spadada: Yeah, us too. We miss him.
Jason: I do, too.
Polter-Cow: And My Name is Earl is great, but he should come back to work for Veronica Mars.
Jason: Yeah, he did some cool colors. I love the... He would do, like, purples and greens and oranges and stuff like that. Like, he was like a trademark for the show, you know, and no other show had that. You'd be clicking through and see that and go "Veronica Mars." It was branded almost.
Spadada: They still do it with the gels. They did it this week, but it doesn't feel as cohesive. I don't know if that's the right word.
Jason: It was weird. In the first season, it was like this fictitious place that...
Spadada: The blue flashback place
Jason: Yeah. Well, yeah, that, but it was real, but it was like some otherworldly type of thing, you know, too. Like Neptune, I don't know, I thought that was really cool.
Polter-Cow: Yeah, with this PCH biker gang like going around... [LAUGHTER]
Jason: You know, and you had different cliques, and the school that was like different than any other school, you know. Like there almost couldn't possibly ever be a place like that, but it was still in reality. It's very interesting.
Spacecitymarc: So here's a question, since we're sort of talking about season one. I mean the first season was, in many ways, sort of very self-contained. I mean there was a very, very clear sort of start, middle, and end. As someone performing on a show like that, how did you prepare for second season? I mean, what did, did it feel different because I mean so many things that the first season was based upon had been tied up. Was it different?
Jason: Yeah. I mean, well, we'd always kind of get the scripts like a week or two ahead, so we never know really what the whole arc is, you know. But I totally see what you're talking about the first season being self-contained, and I think the second season, I don't know. I didn't know, I guess, where I was going to go for my guy or anything, because I'd already done like this kind of a change thing and, I don't know. I need like another, I need to decide something that I want to do or something like that. I think the writing is part of it, but I think more than that it's just I've got to pick something and go for what I want. But it's so funny, like if you have all the money in the world and stuff like that, like you know, you don't really care about school and you don't have any friends, it's like damn, you know. [LAUGHTER]
Spadada: Yeah, I had a boyfriend like that, who came from money. And how do you find ambition when there's nothing to strive for, when everything's handed to you.
Jason: That's right, that's right.
Polter-Cow: Well, it's sort of like the other Logan on Gilmore Girls. He came from money and was trying to find his...
Spadada: The one you got to punch!
Jason: Yeah. He was cool.
Spadada: Yeah, he seemed it in the little...
Polter-Cow: The CW party stuff that we saw. He seemed pretty fun.
Spadada: With the amazing and wonderful Kristin Veitch. [LAUGHTER] Fangirl Queen... I have a stupid fiction question. Does, Logan still think of Lilly? Does that factor into anything?
Jason: I guess, I, no, I more think of the folks, parents' aspect of it, than I think about life story and stuff like that. I think I relate a little bit more to that, so I kind of use that for, I don't know, experience, whenever, I don't know, you know, when somebody's had a hard life and when somebody says something that relates to you, like when the little girl loses her, you find out that, you know, her dad, whatever. It's like, I always, I don't know, that's a stronger relationship to me, the family thing, that's kind of, I do that. But if there's something like, that it would...
[A crew member peeks her head in the food court, sees us and rushes out.]
Spacecitymarc: "Oh God, bloggers!" [LAUGHTER]
Jason: But if there's something like about girlfriends, or that comes up, obviously, you know, you have the full story there or whatever, but.
Spadada: Yeah. I miss the parents.
Jason: Yeah!
Spadada: That's good stuff, I'm excited about that. I feel like lately like Mindy O'Dell and Professor Landry have kind of filled that. They're adults who are involved in the story.
Jason: Yeah, I love that, because you saw it, when the adults are there, you saw more of the kids, you know, like more of the backstory of the kids and stuff like that and what they're dealing with and...
Spacecitymarc: You have to sort of imagine like they're on their little island.
Polter-Cow: You remember that they're really just kids.
Spadada: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Jason: Exactly, dude! That's right.
Spadada: I mean I guess they did show us a little bit of that with Beaver second season, with his mother, who obviously, you know, could care less about him and his father, and good time Kendall, so.
Jason: "Good Time Kendall." [LAUGHTER] That's right.
Spadada: She's dead. Oh, she died, too! Jesus, Logan!
Jason: Everybody dies.
Polter-Cow: Everybody Logan touches dies.
Jason: Everybody dies.
Spadada: I never thought about Kendall being on that list too!
Spacecitymarc: So, Kristen, Amanda, Charisma.
Jason: [incredulous] Who was better?
Spacecitymarc: Who was easier to kiss. [LAUGHTER] This is my like Tiger Beat question.
Spadada: Is anybody hard to kiss?
Jason: I like working on those scenes very much. All of them.
Spacecitymarc: I mean I know a lot of actors talk about how awkward it is to do love scenes.
Jason: Yeah.
Spacecitymarc: Like do you find like it's, I mean you did some pretty intense scenes, certainly last season, you know, with Charisma...
Polter-Cow: And Hannah.
Spadada: Oh, Hannah.
Spacecitymarc: Yeah, Hannah.
Spadada: Flash in the pan, Hannah. She's not dead. [to Jason] Good job!
Jason: She's on a different show.
Spacecitymarc: So I'd like to retract that question and go with that. Is that sort of, is that tough, as an actor?
Jason: Yeah, it's not, I mean I, I guess I always look at it like as going into a scene and not really like kind of like keeping your distance, know what I mean? Like except for when you're shooting, I guess, it's like you really go there to work and you're with this girl and, you know what I mean, and then you look over and there's all these grips scratching themselves [LAUGHTER] and...
Wyk: You're not alone.
Jason: Yeah, and it's on a set, you know what I mean, it's not like private, private, private. But, you do it and then cut and then you go off and then, you know, get notes and just keep, keep an acting mind, keep a professional attitude there and then I think it's easy, you know. Because you're looking for... I'm not, I never look for how can I try to score or whatever, it's what can I do to...
Spacecitymarc: So that was the joke aspect of the question.
Jason: Yeah, no, I understand.
Spacecitymarc: I mean, so many people, in interviews that I've read, like I said, sort of said that, like as you said, you know, the final product is this big romantic, you know, sexy scene, but in reality you've got like lights from every direction, you've got people with microphones.
Spadada: How weird would that be if someone said that they had loved it? That person would be totally bizarre, like, "I love making out with people with a bunch of people and cameras around me and microphones and..."
Spacecitymarc: Yeah, it's like, I mean, you sort of, in many ways, more than anything else on the show...
Jason: Sleep around...
Spacecitymarc: [LAUGHTER] You're subject to that more.
Wyk: So do you have to pump up just before there's, you know, "I'm not wearing a shirt today."
Jason: I think we did that one time, Teddy and I did, and we just felt weird about it. [LAUGHTER]
Spadada: Loved that bedroom scene between you and Kristen.
Polter-Cow: In "Poughkeepsie, Tramps, and Thieves"?
Spadada: Yes. The scene that saved the episode for me. [LAUGHTER] Great scene with, you know, the land mine scene.
Jason: Oh, yeah.
Spadada: Really great scene.
Polter-Cow: Oh, yeah. "Ask me anything." Yeah, that was a really great scene.
Spadada: How was Sundance?
Jason: It was awesome, it was so cool.
Spadada: Yeah? Was it your first time?
Jason: No, I think it was my second. Second or third time, second time. Well, I worked with this directors' festival or something like that, whatever, and did something up there for that. That was the second time going to the festival, actually. It was cool, man. I got to hang with Chris and Ryan up there and...
Polter-Cow: You go snowboarding?
Jason: Yeah. I went with Ryan and, yeah, he was jumping really high. It was cool. It was fun.
Spadada: Did you see any movies?
Jason: I saw a movie with my friend, it was at Slam Dance [Slam Dance is a Guerrilla Festival that shows indie films excluded from the bigger show] and it was good, man, it's with Katherine Quinlan. [The movie is called American Folk.]
Polter-Cow: Kathleen Quinlan?
Jason: Is it Kathleen? Yeah, she's fucking unreal, she's so good.
Polter-Cow: She was in Apollo 13.
Spacecitymarc: Yeah, she was Tom Hanks's wife.
Jason: Yeah. She was like... It's funny, you watch a movie and all of a sudden somebody comes on that's like unbelievable, and has just a couple scenes and it just fucking blew me away.
Spadada: Have you see The Departed?
Jason: Yeah.
Spadada: Did you like it?
Jason: Yeah, I though Leo had some very good scenes.
Spadada: I thought the best scenes I've seen him from in such a long time.
Jason: Yeah.
Spadada: I had thought that pretty much he wasn't an actor that I was interested in following his career anymore, and that changed that.
Spacecitymarc: I thought it was the first time I'd seen him in a, it was the first pairing of him and Martin Scorsese that I actually thought worked.
Polter-Cow: I haven't seen The Aviator, but Gangs of New York was eh.
Spacecitymarc: Yeah, I didn't think The Aviator... I kept on seeing Leo, I didn't see the character.
Jason: You know who's fucking awesome is Ryan Gosling!
Spadada: I haven't seen Half Nelson yet and I'm dying to.
Jason: It's fucking unreal, dude. It's unreal.
Spadada: A lot of people who are fans of your work are, you know, touting that performance. It's probably a similar, I don't know, sensibility? People who...
Jason: Yeah. Dude, I watched it and I was like, wow, that's really good.
Spadada: Wasn't he on the Mickey Mouse Club? Where does he come from?
Spacecitymarc: What I found it really funny is everyone is talking about, you know, oh, it's such a surprise because, you know, it's the guy from The Notebook. But he rose to prominence in The Believer.
Polter-Cow: Oh, yeah, that's right!
Spacecitymarc: Which, I mean, so it seems like The Notebook would be an anomaly rather than Half Nelson. So I sort of thought.
Jason: Yeah, man, he's just very, very cool, man. Not a lot of interviews with him, either. It's funny. I was like trying to look on YouTube and stuff like that and there's like one interview. That's all I could find.
Spadada: Yeah. Even though he's nominated. You'd think.
Jason: Yeah, I don't know.
Spadada: Maybe he's not into them.
Jason: I know. I don't think so, either.
Spadada: You probably wouldn't be into them if you weren't helping promote a show that needs new viewers, huh?
Jason: Yeah, I mean it was very difficult. It was a little more difficult for me at the beginning because I was really trying to be like all serious and stuff like that. I mean, like talk about acting and, I don't know if that's as interesting to viewers.
Spadada: Ben Affleck did an interview for Premiere magazine like ten years ago, Ben Affleck on Ben Affleck, where he has his public persona interview his actual self.
Jason: Really?
Spadada: Hilarious, really hilarious.
Jason: That's cool.
Spadada: He makes fun of the jackass he often is in the press.
Jason: I'm going to have to do this.
Polter-Cow: Jason Dohring on Jason Dohring?
Jason: Yeah. [Wyk asks him a question that is obscured.] What's that?
Wyk: Is that a wedding ring?
Jason: Yeah. And sometimes, I think it made it into the shot. [LAUGHTER]
Spacecitymarc: Wasn't it, was it David Duchovny who after he got married to to Tea Leoni, like he said I'm just going to wear this in the show and let the fans figure out amongst themselves?
Jason: That's funny.
Polter-Cow: So between these two episodes, Mulder and Scully got married and didn't tell anybody. [LAUGHTER]
Spadada: Rob would do that! [LAUGHTER] And then they broke up. [LAUGHTER]
Jason: Did you guys get to talk to him a lot?
Polter-Cow: Yeah.
Wyk: We had lunch with him.
Jason: Oh, that's so cool.
Polter-Cow: Yeah, he took us around, we did a podcast, he let us sit in on a casting session and listen to studio notes and stuff.
Jason: That's so awesome, man.
Polter-Cow: Yeah, it was.
Jason: I never got to do that! I love to do that stuff.
Spadada: You should go out there! They're really fun.
Wyk: Well, if you go in the casting session, they might... [LAUGHTER]
Polter-Cow: You can read your sides for them. [LAUGHTER]
Jason: Totally.
Spadada: The three of us have email correspondence relationships with [Rob], Sunil more than the rest of us, so there's a level of comfort, so it's just kind of like, "Hey, you're here!"
Jason: Are you guys on Television Without Pity too?
Spadada: Less so lately, but yeah. The tone has changed there a lot. And so we've kind of, and we keep telling Rob, "Tell your writers not to read it, tell your actors not to read it."
Polter-Cow: I stay out of the episode thread. I'm mostly on the other stuff like media and ratings and other stuff, but I don't talk about the show very much, because there's yeah, I guess what feels like overwhelming just bitterness and, yeah.
Jason: Do you think it's, do you think the third season is better than the second season?
Spadada: Yeah, drastically.
Jason: You do, huh?
Polter-Cow: I mean, I really like the second season for a lot of things. I really enjoyed the complexity of it, like for the first half, until things sort of started falling apart in the second half, where everything was, like all the twisting and turning ended up just being red herrings that were pointless and they didn't really need...I mean, it was really cool that they ended up making all the red herrings so convincing, but when you look at it, it just feels so empty, you know, like it was just, well, I mean, "So what?" Terrence was sort of sketchy, but he didn't do anything, basically.
Wyk: They could have cut that whole thing out.
Polter-Cow: Exactly. They could have cut the entire thing instead of making us shift blame for no reason. I'm hoping, I mean with the finale, the episode on Tuesday, that all the fricking sketchiness with Mindy and Landry is not just a big red herring, but at least there's something sketchy with them, because there's too much to be a stupid coincidence, like with season two everything was just sort of a coincidence to keep you from suspecting Beaver. [LAUGHTER]
Jason: Right, exactly.
Spadada: Which we all did anyway.
Polter-Cow: Which people started doing just because nothing was pointing to Beaver. [LAUGHTER]
Jason: Really?
Polter-Cow: Because that's the way the show works. Wait a second, if everything's... Like Rob likes to distract you and so if they accuse Terrence it's not Terrence. So they accuse this guy, it's not him. Who have they not accused yet? Well, they haven't accused Beaver, so... [LAUGHTER]
Spadada: But that was why he did the Mercer thing.
Polter-Cow: Yeah, the Mercer thing was awesome. That was great.
Spacecitymarc: First clue, very first clue.
Spadada: That was a great payoff.
Polter-Cow: Yeah, the very first major clue is like Mercer, but then it was like, "Nope, he's got an alibi." Apparently alibis mean nothing on this show. They're all fakes.
Jason: Yeah, exactly. I mean no, man, no shit.
Spacecitymarc: What about you? I mean what do you, do you feel that the, I don't know if you can speak publicly, but do you feel the third season is better?
Jason: I don't know, that's why I was asking you, because I didn't know and I wanted to see what you guys thought or whatever, you know. Yeah, I think, I didn't see like the first part of the season, but I think it's better when I watch because then I can go, oh my God.
Spadada: It's actually much better after six, after "Hi, Infidelity." That was the turning point, after six.
Wyk: I liked them all.
Polter-Cow: Personally what I have really, really loved about the season is the transition to college is seamless and amazingly perfect and it's like no other college that I've seen on television in a long, long time.
Jason: Right.
Polter-Cow: Like it really feels like you've made the leap to college in every way. Like you're telling college stories that wouldn't really work at Neptune High, and the characters are...
Jason: Okay.
Polter-Cow: You know, the characters are doing the sort of college-type things and not retaining their old high school personas and so I really like the way that it's made that transition. And so every time, like every new thing, I was like you know, "That's totally what Rice was like!" Or you know, and I'm so glad they're doing a story about this and it's, I mean, and it's the same thing where by this time, Hearst feels as real as Neptune High did, because you've got all the recurring characters coming back and all the recurring locations.
Jason: Right, that's good.
Polter-Cow: And it's taken a while to really get it because Hearst was so new at the beginning. We're like, you know, this is oh, so...we all miss Neptune High, but now we're getting kind of used to the Hearst thing.
Spadada: Mr. Wu! Principal Clemmons. [LAUGHTER]
Jason: [gestures to the food court set] It's so funny because this used to be the high school I remember.
Spadada: So weird.
Jason: [points] Hallway with the lockers.
Wyk: So what was your first reaction when you walked in?
Jason: To this? It felt a little cold to me, to be honest. [LAUGHTER] That's just my honest feeling and then, and then we've gotten used to it now, more or less.
Spadada: How do you feel about the Neptune Grand set, because...
Jason: That's cold, too! [LAUGHTER]
Spadada: I hate it. Sorry, Alfred Sole or whoever designed it.
Jason: No. I mean it's well designed. I think it looks like, you know, a hotel and all that, but yeah, it's like...
Wyk: It's not homey.
Jason: Not homey at all! [LAUGHTER]
Wyk: But you know, that's a fancy hotel.
Jason: Yeah. I know, you always go to those fancy hotels.
Polter-Cow: You should have seen her hotel room, dude. [points at Spadada] [LAUGHTER]
Jason: Really?
Spadada: I stayed in a Hilton at Universal City, on my mom's Hilton points, so it was free. And I was supposed to have a room with a king-sized bed and they messed up and they didn't have any left, so they put me in the Governor's Suite. So I had the bedroom, two living rooms, one-and-a-half baths.
Jason: No way!
Spadada: Three couches, so they all crashed at my place last night.
Jason: Oh, that's so cool.
Spadada: It was really fun.
Jason: Unreal. That's really great.
Spadada: It was really fun. It was ugly because it was a Hilton, but it was big.
Polter-Cow: It was huge, and basically it was like your suite. You could live in that.
Spadada: There was a dining room table that sat eight.
Polter-Cow: Yeah, huge dining room table.
Spadada: A bar.
Polter-Cow: A bar.
Jason: That's so cool, though. That's so fun to do that every once in a while.
Spadada: It was fun. I was like, "If I believed in signs, this is a great one." [LAUGHTER] My first night in Los Angeles. Good stuff.
Jason: Where are you from?
Spadada: I live in Boston.
Jason: Okay.
Spacecitymarc: I am also from Boston.
Polter-Cow: I'm down from Oakland.
Jason: Oakland?
Polter-Cow: Yeah.
Jason: Cool. I like the reporter there, she's cool.
Polter-Cow: I'm sorry, I don't really watch the news. [LAUGHTER]
Jason: Well, no, she does articles on the show and stuff like that.
Polter-Cow: Oh, okay. The Oakland Tribune?
Jason: Yeah, I think she writes for the Tribune.
Spadada: You know who's a big fan of the show? She doesn't write about it, but we emailed back and forth a couple times, the television editor for the Los Angeles Times.
Jason: Really?
Spadada: Kate [Aurthur]? I forget her name but she used to work for the New York Times and she's a little, like she was very excited for the Gilmore Girls lead-in. Which hasn't amounted to much, but.
Jason: I know! Well it did at the beginning, and then no.
Polter-Cow: Yeah, and then no. [LAUGHTER]
Wyk: When it came back from hiatus the ratings lost like a million viewers.
Jason: I know.
Spacecitymarc: And American Idol is killing again.
Jason: Yeah, it's killing again. Yep.
Spadada: It's scheduling.
Jason: But Gilmore Girls doesn't have as much as it used to, either, right?
Wyk: It went back up.
Spadada: It's kind of a problem though because as it moves up, the percentage of retention for Veronica Mars goes down because Veronica Mars isn't going up with it.
Polter-Cow: Yeah, and they're not actually sticking around like how the master plan for TV scheduling works. [LAUGHTER]
Jason: Right. Well, yeah, that's funny. Is that, I don't know what, you know.
Polter-Cow: It's just hard because I mean it's, even, I mean the promos have been better the last few weeks, so we can't even blame them. I guess we can blame American Idol and House, that's pretty much what we're doing now.
Jason: Yeah.
Spacecitymarc: I blame most things on American Idol. [LAUGHTER]
Spadada: I blame the whole netlet concept, I mean, you know.
Polter-Cow: Nobody will watch the CW because it's not the Big Three.
Spadada: I mean we're all, you know, around 30 and we all knew the WB, but so many people never even knew the WB existed, forget about the merging of the UPN and the WB.
Spacecitymarc: Yeah, and I, and honestly, I mean, had it not been for Buffy, I probably never would have paid the slightest attention to the WB. I mean, it's just, because of that one show. You know, that led me into this other network.
Spadada: Had it not been for an awful episode of One Tree Hill I never would have flipped and stopped on UPN. I mean I never stopped on UPN before in my life and I stopped on "Return of the Kane" which Rob hates, for some reason, it's one of my favorite episodes, I love it. [Jason asks which episode RotK is.] When Duncan runs for, when Logan makes Duncan run for president It's good stuff.
Wyk: Why did you, were you auditioning for stuff on major networks, too, or were you a little hesitant. Because WB, no one...
Polter-Cow: UPN, that's even worse. [LAUGHTER]
Jason: No, I mean, it was all right. It was like, I always say it's cool, you know, that we shot down here, you know... I was just fucking fresh out of acting class, so I was like trying cool shit that I learned in class [LAUGHTER] and it was like "Nobody's going to watch this shit, anyway." [LAUGHTER]
Polter-Cow: You mean like your gesticulating?
Jason: Yeah, yeah, that and, like little things, you know, like reading Duncan's homework as he's coming back from the bathroom and stuff like that. He comes in, I put it away. [LAUGHTER] You know, shit like that, and coming in room backwards and tons of fucking things like that. It was so fun.
Wyk: And you still do that?
Jason: Yeah, a little bit.
Wyk: Do you do it as much?
Jason: Yeah, I got, I'm coming back up into it much more. Where are you from, by the way?
Wyk: Oh, Venice.
Jason: Cool.
Wyk: Well, yeah, but I just moved to L.A. in November.
Jason: From where?
Wyk: Connecticut.
Jason: Okay, cool.
Wyk: Yep. Where are you from?
Jason: I'm from Ohio. I was born in Ohio.
Spadada: Were you really?
Jason: Yeah.
Spadada: Where?
Jason: Toledo.
Spadada: Oh, that's great. When did your family move out to Los Angeles?
Jason: When I was three.
Spadada: Okay.
Jason: So a fan got me the shirt that said "Toledo." [LAUGHTER] It's a good shirt.
Spadada: You're getting a lot of shirts.
Jason: Yeah, I know! [LAUGHTER]
Wyk: You don't need to buy clothing any more.
Jason: I'll be well-dressed. [LAUGHTER] Cool, guys. It was an absolute pleasure meeting you.
Spadada: Thank you.
Jason: Thank you very much. Yeah, enjoy the rest of your day.
Polter-Cow: Thanks for your time.