Bryan (The Card Guy)

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Bryan

You've heard from the stars! But what of the little people? We're not talking about wee Kristen Bell, but those tireless creators of human scenery known as extras, who aren't so much stars, as they are little, really tiny asteroids. And we hope that metaphor makes sense, because we had to sacrifice a goat to get this exclusive interview with Bryan, who gave us a great behind-the-scenes look at what goes into being an extra on a show like Veronica Mars. And I swear, no more space metaphors for me.

About You

MI.net: Since you're an extra, your character doesn't have a name. Do you mind if we nicknamed you "The Asian Guy"? No? How about "Backpack Boy"? "The Future Mr. Meg Manning"? AliMac?

The Card Guy: Hmmm, I guess a lot of extras knew me as "The Card Guy," as I was known for my casino dealer-like skills and teaching other extras how to play casino games during the down time. It wouldn't really be fair to call me "The Asian Guy" since there's another guy that had worked on every episode since #1 or #2, and I really only got in on the last third of the season.

[Editor's note: You've might not have been the first "Asian Guy," but you are the most noticeable. And we're not just saying that because you use some big freaking red arrows on your site to point yourself out.]

MI.net: Were you a fan of the show before you became an extra? If not, why the hell not? Are you a fan of the show now? (I hope you know that there is only one correct answer to this question.)

The Card Guy: I'd never even heard of the show before I started working on it. The day after my first day working on the show, they happened to be rerunning the pilot episode on UPN, so I decided I should probably see just what this show I was going to be on was. After the pilot, I was completely hooked. In fact, I couldn't wait around for them to replay all the episodes, so I ended up getting copies of all 12 or 13 episodes that had been released at the time and watched every one of them in the span of about 36 hours.

MI.net: Did you tell all your friends and family members that you were going to be on Veronica Mars? Did they start watching the show because of your appearances? Did they ply you with questions to get spoilers? Were you warned not to give out spoilers? If so, who warned you?

The Card Guy: My sister only ended up watching maybe an episode or two just to look for me. She actually spotted me in some scenes I didn't even notice myself in. A couple of my friends started getting into the show, but they, like me, had never even heard of it until I started working on the show. There was one particular friend of mine who was already into the show that was into hearing about spoilers, but we never did discuss any of that stuff in any public forums.

[Editor's note: Hmm, so the best way to get new viewers is to give people a part on the show....

Dear Nielsen people or friends of Nielsen people, woud you guys like to be extras on the show?]

As far as being warned about giving out spoilers goes, no one really said anything at first. I think it was kind of understood...that is, until that one particular incident came up. I'm pretty sure I ran into that person too. I can remember sitting next to a girl that was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too into the show during a dinner break the night we shot the fake birthday party scene at the Echolls mansion. She was constantly going on about the show and different plot points and was saying if anyone didn't watch the show, she could catch them up on all of the details and whatnot...just going on about the show nonstop. I'd never seen anyone act that way on set before. The next morning something got posted on a website, and the next day of shooting with extras after that we all got a stern warning about leaking spoilers to the Internet and we were told that they knew who the perpetrator was and that they wouldn't be back.

About being an extra

MI.net: How did you become a background extra for the show? Did you just send in a headshot? Or was there an audition/interview process?

The Card Guy: I answered an ad on Craigslist looking for people who looked young enough to play high school students. I was (and still am) interested in becoming a filmmaker and thought it would be a great opportunity to get myself onto a real professional film production set without having to know anybody. A couple of weeks later, they called me and asked if I could come in the next morning. There were no auditions or interviews or any other qualifications required, really.

[Editor's note: "Young enough to play high school students." Too bad the casting department didn't apply the same standards during "Weapons of Class Destruction." *cough* Jonathan Taylor Thomas *cough*]

MI.net: How much do extras get paid? Are you booked by the day, the week? Who calls you to tell you that they want you for a particular day? How much advance notice do you get?

The Card Guy: Non-union extras get paid $54 for the first 8 hours or part thereof. If you work exactly 8 hours, it works out to minimum wage (in California, anyway). If they send you home after only 3 hours, you still get paid $54. After the 8th hour you get paid overtime, after 10 hours it's double time. After 12, or maybe 13.5 or something (I don't know the exact rules) you get into triple-time territory, but they rarely let it go that long -- the extras wouldn't be the only people getting paid triple time, and it takes a lot of people to make a TV show! SAG members get paid significantly more, but that's kind of offset by having to pay union dues, and I think they only used a limited number of SAG members per day. Being a SAG member does have its perks though.

We were booked by the day, and usually someone from Background San Diego (the people that handle all of the background casting for Stu Segall Productions) would call the night before they needed us to find out if we'd be available the next day or not.

MI.net: Does the show provide any type of amenities such as water, bread, or strippers to keep the 100-plus extras happy, or do they treat you like peons and expect you bring your own clothes, nourishment, and entertainment?

The Card Guy: There is usually water, coffee and donuts provided throughout the day. If you are a SAG member, you get to eat off of the magical SAG truck, which had all kinds of snacks and sodas and other goodies. Most days there were tables and chairs around so you could read, study or play games during the downtime, although conditions varied greatly whenever we went on location. We were also provided with lunch, which was generally the same food that the rest of the cast and crew ate.

MI.net: How good/bad is the food?

The Card Guy: Quite good, actually. They've got a great catering team on that show. Most days we had an assortment of dishes like grilled chicken, fish, salads, and usually some kind of cake or ice cream for dessert. On some days they'd splurge and get crazy, with stuff like seared tuna or bacon-wrapped filet mignon...morale was pretty high when we got back on set the day they had that, haha.

[Editor's note: Wait a second, the extras get double overtime, the chance to stand inches away from the incredibly HOT cast, and bacon-wrapped filet mignon?! Damn, that's like the best job ever.]

MI.net: Do the hair/makeup/wardrobe departments work with the extras or are the extras responsible for taking care of their own wardrobe, hair, and makeup?

The Card Guy: We were usually told to bring at least 3 different changes of clothes from which people in the wardrobe department would choose. Those Neptune High T-Shirts and letterman jackets were provided by the wardrobe folks. We'd be responsible for our own makeup (meaning most of the guys weren't wearing any at all), though on some of the longer shoots we'd get some hair touch-ups.

MI.net: Did your roommate demand a cut of your pay since his backpack played such a prominent role in your performance?

The Card Guy: Actually, I ended up ditching my roommate's backpack and buying a new one after a few episodes because that thing had a huge hole in the bottom, and I got sick of worrying about stuff falling out. I think he was happy enough just seeing something of his on TV.

About the filming process

MI.net: What's a typical work day like? What time do you get there? How many hours do you work? Which crew members are in charge of rounding up the cattle? I mean extras. I meant to say extras.

The Card Guy: Most days we were told to arrive at the studio around 6 or 6:30 A.M. There were very few days where I worked less than 8 hours, and quite a few where we went over 10. Whenever we were off set, Gene was the man in command of the extras...and rounding up cattle really isn't too far from the truth -- some days we had as many as 90 or 100 extras, and I do believe the official job title is "Extras Wrangler" or something like that.

MI.net: How many hours of those 12 hours day are spent actually filming the scenes? How long did it take to shoot a scene? How many takes?

The Card Guy: The amount of time we actually spent filming really varied by the shooting schedule, but it would be safe to say that the majority of my time there was spent waiting in the "holding area." They usually only needed ALL of the extras (or "background artists" as we were often called) during those big hallway scenes, so often times they'd only use a handful of people while the rest of us waited back in the holding area to be used in a different scene.

[Editor's note: "Background artists"?! Y'all ain't nuthin' but human continuity cattle. Get back in the holding pen before the extras wrangler found out you escaped.]

How long it actually took to shoot scenes also varied greatly, usually by the individual director's style. Different episodes were directed by different people, and while some directors were happy after only a few takes, others seemed to enjoy taking many, many, many takes...I must have seen the "goat meat" being revealed at least 60 times that day. All in all, I'd say shooting a scene takes a lot longer than most people expect it to, and on an average day they'd only shoot a handful of scenes with extras, and maybe a handful of other scenes after we weren't needed anymore.

MI.net: Who's in charge of making sure that an extra is wearing the same clothes or standing or sitting in same position for all these different takes?

The Card Guy: When it came to continuity with what we were wearing, that was up to the wardrobe department. Every scene they cruise through the set in between takes and take our pictures. Sometimes we'd be coming back on a later day to work on the same scene, or another scene that takes place on the same day, and in those cases they'd ask us to bring back the same clothes and cross-check with the photos to make sure we had the right stuff.

As far as standing or sitting in the same position goes, we pretty much just had to guess. I mean we'd all be going through the same routine during each take, and most of the time we'd be pretty close, but it's really impossible to keep track of that many people doing that many things, and I definitely spotted myself being in two (or even more) places at the same time in several episodes.

[Editor's note: The Card Guy, this sounds like the beginning of a beautiful drinking game. Okay home viewers, whenever you spot a human cattle "background artist" blooper, you must take a drink.

Sitting or standing in the wrong position - one shot.
Wearing a different outfit - two shots.
Appearing in multiple places in the same scene - three shots.
Wearing a different outfit, hairstyle, haircolor, body type, and face (รก la Shelly Pomroy 1.0 and Shelly Pomroy 3.0) - ten shots.]

MI.net: When they give you guys directions about where to stand, where to sit, does that crew member refer to you by name? Is it like, "John, sit here, Susie, stand over there," or is it, "Hey, you, in the blue shirt, sit down and don't you dare move until the director yells action"?

The Card Guy: This is where I have to mention Dan Mulvaney, Second Assistant Director. He has an uncanny talent for remembering names. Most of the time he remembers a new person's name after asking once, and it's very, very rare for him to have to ask a person their name more than twice. It's quite amazing considering just how many extras there have been and the high turnover rate -- a lot of people never show up again after their first day.

[Editor's note: Yay, Dan Mulvaney! You know what would be a cool DVD extra? A short intro of the various crew members. Oh well....]

MI.net: How much info and stage directions do the extras get about the scene? Do they give you a general idea, such as "Everyone sees Logan kissing Veronica. Everyone act surprised"? Do they tell you the dialogue in the scene ahead of time, or is the first time you hear the dialogue when the actors say the line?

The Card Guy: Only when they need everyone to react at once to something would they give us directions like that. Most of the scenes that take place at the school would look pretty awkward if everyone was concentrating on the main action, since that's not what people do in real life, especially in a busy hallway. Usually the ADs give everyone little stories to play out.

For example, you might might start out sitting here at some table talking to some guys, then you get up and walk over to the soda machine, then maybe walk down the stairs and meet up with another group of people next to the flagpole on your way in to the school building. Everyone would get their own little routine which would then be played out for every take of the scene. I guess that's one way they can try to get us to be in the same general area during each take.

MI.net: Are you guys allowed to talk during the scenes, or are you just supposed to move your lips and pretend that you are talking so that the mics won't pick you guys up? Do you feel silly doing the pantomime?

The Card Guy: We have to pantomime most of the time since they are usually trying to record dialogue at the same time, and having the background noise would make editing the scenes a lot harder. I guess we'd feel silly if we were the only people pantomiming and everyone else was watching, but when everyone else around you is doing it too, you get to feel silly about it together, which makes it seem less silly.

MI.net: Since this is your first gig, what surprised you most about the filming process?

The Card Guy: What surprised me, personally, was that the lighting design on the show isn't as complex as I expected it to be. I think what surprises most people is just how much WORK making a TV show is. I think a lot of extras show up on their first day expecting a lot more glamour or something. They don't expect it to be as tedious of a process as it is. They don't realize that they're gonna be waiting around off set doing nothing most of the time and the time that they are on set, they spend doing the same thing, over and over. And then the crew will move some cameras and lights and we continue doing the same thing we just did again. And so on and so forth for each camera angle for each scene.

And it's actually not all that different for the stars. Granted, instead of going away to a cold, dark holding area with some plastic chairs and tables, they get to go to their nice little furnished trailers, but what do you think they do when they get there? They wait! Just like the peon extras! And when they are on set, they, like us, are doing the same thing over and over and again for every camera setup.

I think a lot of people have this idea that you just become famous and start collecting everyone's love and adoration. They don't realize that to get there, you have to put in a lot of long hours of very tedious work. From what I can tell, on most of the days that I came home from what I felt was a long and tedious day on set, Kristen Bell and company were still back at the studio working while I was relaxing on my couch in front of my TV. It's not as easy of a life as a lot of people imagine.

[Editor's note: The Card Guy, thanks for destroying the magic. What's next? Are you going to tell us that there's no Santa Claus?]

MI.net: Which of the scenes are shot on location and which are shot in a studio?

The Card Guy: Well I guess I should first note that the school looks totally different in the pilot episode when compared to the rest of the episodes. As far as I know, the pilot was shot at an actual school, but when the series got picked up, they built the Neptune High School set at the studio. This included the hallways, the classrooms, the lunch area with all the tables and the flagpole, as well as the parking lot.

Actually, other than the journalism room, there was really only one classroom, which would be redecorated to fit the needs of the scene. Also while many scenes take place in the girls' bathroom, there was no boys' bathroom -- they stick a bathroom sign on the door across the hallway, but that door actually led into to the multipurpose classroom.

Another interesting thing was that, in a lot of cases, they recreated actual locations on their soundstage. For example, in episodes where they show the exterior of the Mars' apartment building, they actually used a small hotel that sits on top of an ocean view cliff, but scenes that show the interior of the apartment are shot on a soundstage at the studio. However, they also recreated an exact replica of the area right outside of the apartment on the soundstage as well. There's a similar deal going on with the Mars Investigations office.

The police station that appears in the later episodes (you'll notice it's different in the earlier episodes) is also on the soundstage. The apartment, Mars Investigations and the police station are all right next to each other inside the same soundstage building. On many of the days I worked, the holding area for extras was right in between the sets of the Mars Investigations and the police station, right behind a door on a false wall in the police station marked "Evidence Room."

The little coffee shop/karaoke club/restaurant set that was used in a few episodes was also in the same building, as well as a lot of sets that they built just for one episode and tore down afterwards. I remember one day seeing them building a set that from watching the completed episode I learned was Amelia DeLongpre's dorm room, but the next time I was back it was already gone.

There were also a TON of location shots that are fun for San Diegans to spot...too many to list, really, but some examples are: Dog Beach for the most part really was Dog Beach in San Diego, except in the episode with the lost dogs, where they used La Jolla Shores instead, which I recognized because I used to surf there every day. The scenes that were supposed to take place at San Diego State during that computer nerd episode were actually shot at UC San Diego (Go Tritons! -- I went to UCSD...and yes, that really was our mascot).

The homes of the Kanes and Echollses were (very rich people's) actual homes. Here's a bit of trivia...the house they used for the Kanes' house is also the same house they used for the party where Veronica got drugged. As a matter of fact, the kitchen where Veronica received her spiked drink and the kitchen where Duncan dropped his meds into the sink are one and the same. I was standing right behind Veronica when that drink was handed to her, so I would know

[Editor's note: Yay, set department! Wouldn't it be cool if the DVDs had some behind-the-scenes footage that compared the real locations to the soundstage sets? Oh, wait a second, I forgot...never mind.]

MI.net: Is there anything on the sets that's cool that we haven't noticed?

The Card Guy: There are so many little details. All these little things that you can't even really see on TV, like the notices on the wall warning students that April Fool's pranks will not be tolerated, flyers for school plays and various clubs, etc. The set decoration crew does such a good job and I think they're a major reason why the show has such high production value despite the low budget.

[Editor's note: Yay, prop department! A behind the scenes montage of all the set decorations would be such an awesome DVD extra. Too bad that...well, you know the rest.]

MI.net: Are you ever tempted to take a "souvenir" home?

The Card Guy: Well, I've since moved to the L.A. area and now that it seems unlikely that I'll do much work on the show again, so I kind of wish I had taken something like one of the paper flyers down from hallway at Neptune High School. And I really wouldn't mind having one of the many photos of me on set that were taken by the wardrobe people.

MI.net: Are the extras allowed to wander around the sets, or is Big Brother keeping an eye on you to keep you away from Veronica's bedroom? Do you get to swim in the Echollses' pool?

The Card Guy: We were absolutely not allowed to wander around the sets, ESPECIALLY when we were on location at someone's actual home. I mean, on one hand it was just a matter of respect, and on the other, the studio certainly wanted to make sure that they'd be welcome to come back and film at those people's houses again!

I did once drop a slip of paper with my name on it into locker #110, though. I came back a couple of weeks later and it was still there. Not that I need a fake ID since I have a real one!

About the cast

MI.net: Have you ever spoken to any of the cast members? Are extras even allowed to speak to the main cast or guest stars, or is that type of behavior a big no-no?

The Card Guy: I wouldn't say it is a BIG no-no, but there is a general rule that the extras shouldn't talk to the cast, and also that the cast shouldn't talk to the extras. I have a feeling that it has more to do with maintaining an efficient workflow than it does with keeping the peons away from the stars. We were all there to do a job, after all, and when you count all the cast, crew and extras who are all being paid...time really is money, if you're the one picking up the tab!

MI.net: Which actors, either main cast or guest stars, were the friendliest to the extras? Which ones glared at you with a look so cold that you wished you've never been born?

The Card Guy: The girl who played Madison Sinclair, whose name escapes me at the moment [Amanda Noret], was probably the most gregarious of the cast members I saw. Also, I think Percy Daggs might have even gotten in a bit of trouble for hanging out with the extras too much. I've had little conversations here and there about the weather and other small talk with Teddy Dunn, and even traded Spaceballs quotes with Alona Tal out in the backyard at Shelly Pomroy's party (Alona, if you're reading this...call me! *melt*). I've also seen Jason Dohring strike up conversations with different people in between takes.

Kristen Bell, from what I noticed, didn't do a whole lot of chatting with anybody in between takes. Most of the time she seemed extremely focused on her work. The one time I can remember talking to her it was inside the journalism room....She had a line that mentioned the ATF and had a question about them, which I answered.

[Editor's note: Hey, "The Card Guy," back off Alona! Giving shoutouts to the cast members during interviews is so unprofessional. Besides, if she is going to call anyone, she should definitely call her bio writer first. Alona is so purdy. *sigh*]

MI.net: Even though you've worked in a few episodes, do you still get star struck that you get to stand so close to such an incredibly HOT cast?

The Card Guy: Not so much with the main cast, since I was seeing them like every day, especially since they were all so down to earth. After a while it was more like seeing that hot chick at your office pass by more than it felt like being in the presence of a TV star.

MI.net: Were you surprised by how short the cast is? (VM cast: Talented? Yes. Overlooked? Most definitely. Tall? What, are you kidding me? Not even close.)

The Card Guy: Actually, I wouldn't say Jason Dohring or Teddy Dunn are short. But Kristen Bell? TINY!!

MI.net: What are some of the funny bloopers that you have witnessed?

The Card Guy: Just your basic flubbed lines and whatnot. I can't really think of anything too crazy happening during any of the scenes I worked on.

MI.net: What are the main cast members like between takes? Do they talk to each other? Do they seem to get along with each other? Do you ever try to eavesdrop on their conversations?

The Card Guy: Honestly, it wasn't really much different than your standard office watercooler talk. After a while, it's almost like just another day at the office...an office where everyone around you is really, really ridiculously good-looking.

MI.net: Based on your limited interaction with the cast, pick one word to describe each of the main cast members.

The Card Guy: Kristen Bell - Focused (and cute, but everyone knows that already)
Percy Daggs - Fun-loving (if that's a word)
Teddy Dunn - Friendly (ugh that sounds so generic)
Jason Dohring - Meek (which is so unlike his character!)

I think I was only on set with Francis Capra for one, maybe two scenes in my whole time on the show, and though I'd have liked to have met Enrico Colantoni, the fact of the matter is that Keith Mars is rarely, if ever, seen at Neptune High School, so we never really crossed paths. And I really, really would have liked to have been able to ask Tina Majorino if I could have one of her key chains, even though I'm sure she hears that like a million times a day.

About the extras

MI.net: Everyone in the cast says that they are always cracking up. Has there ever been an incident where they had to reshoot a scene because a background extra screwed up a scene? Has a background actor's cell phone accidentally gone off during filming?

The Card Guy: Hmmm, I can't think really think of any incidents like that, especially with the cell phone thing. We're encouraged to just leave our phones in the holding area and not bring them to set. Apparently, even if a phone is set to vibrate, it can ruin a take. As far as background screwing up a scene is concerned, it's hard for me to say, since I can't see what the directors are seeing, but the ADs would often make little tweaks to the background in between takes.

[Editor's note: No cell phones on the set? What a bunch of meanies. On the other hand, I guess having The Card Guy call his friends during Shelly's party to tell them, "OMG, I'm standing right behind Kristen Bell!!" would've lessened the emotional impact of that scene.]

MI.net: What do the extras do while waiting for the scene to start? Do you guys talk, do push-ups, scheme your way into meeting the cast? Have you made friends with any of the other extras?

The Card Guy: On set, there really isn't a whole lot you can do, since you can't really make a whole lot of noise and you can't wander off too far. Off set, there's all kinds of stuff going on. Some people talk, some people read, others kick the hacky sack around, lots of people bring Sidekicks or even laptop computers. I passed a lot of time playing cards and doing crossword puzzles. And while I did make friends with a number of other extras, I've really only been keeping in touch with one of them since the first season wrapped.

MI.net: The cast often got together and compared notes to try to figure out the main mysteries. Did extras talk to each other about particular scenes that they were in to try to fill in the details about the main mysteries?

The Card Guy: Oh, most definitely! I had a theory that Lilly was actually the daughter of Jake Kane and Lianne Mars, and that seeing Lilly every day was a constant reminder to Celeste of Jake's infidelity and that Celeste Kane was the one that killed Lilly. And who raped Veronica? As it turns out, it wasn't rape, it was consensual, and it was that Asian guy with the hole in his backpack that did it. Oh wait, that wasn't my theory, that was just something I dreamt about.

[Editor's note: First Duncan and now The Card Guy?! Poor Meg. Meg, we just want you to know that your bio writer would never cheat on you.]

MI.net: Do the extras have their own little cliques?

The Card Guy: Well people did generally tend to hang around with the same people, but when you spend as many idle hours together as we did, you get to know everybody. I certainly can't ever remember any other time when so many hot young women actually wanted to talk to me, even if it was just out of sheer boredom, ha-ha.

MI.net: We had no idea that there were so many recurring extras!

The Card Guy: Yeah, Veronica Mars (and the now-defunct Point Pleasant, which was shot by the same studio in San Diego) is kind of unique in that unlike L.A., where there are dozens of TV shows filming at any given time, the same people keep coming back to work on the same show because it's the only show in town, really.

MI.net: Have you encountered any extras who are convinced that this "role" will lead to bigger and better thing? Are the "I'm going to be star someday" extras snotty to the "I'm doing this for the paycheck" extras?

The Card Guy: Well there were really two types of those "I'm going to be a star someday" types -- The ones that think becoming a star is something that happens to you, and the ones that understand that becoming a star is something you have to make happen. The ones that think becoming a star is something that happens to you are the the ones I mentioned before that had no clue that any actual work was going to be involved in the path to becoming famous and usually never came back after the first day...so they're never really around long enough to be snotty to those who are just there for the paycheck.

The other type of "I'm gonna be a star some day" people who are actually working hard at it, are also often there because of the pay check. Or, alternatively, they are there because they are trying to earn enough credit to be able to join SAG, so I can't see those folks as being snotty to the strictly paycheck types.

I did run into some really scary folks...especially the ones that have been doing background work for a while and were sent down to San Diego from L.A. by their agents and felt the need to constantly drop names of all the people they've "worked" with. Sorry, kiddo, but if all you were doing was sitting in the audience while Brad Pitt or Tom Hanks or whoever was pretending to speak on a stage, that doesn't count as "working with" them in my book!

MI.net: Is there an 09er group that lords it over the 02ers?

The Card Guy: You know, it's kind of funny because when you're just sitting around in the holding area, it's really easy to forget that those guys wearing letterman jackets aren't actually jocks...they just got those jackets out of the wardrobe trailer

[Editor's note: Yay, wardrobe department! You know what would be cool...oh, why bother? It's never going to happen....]

MI.net: Do the extras get together and work out their own little plots and scenes in the background?

The Card Guy: Usually it's the ADs that are setting up that kind of thing, at least as far as general movements are concerned, though it was usually up to the individual extras to fill in all the little details.

MI.net: Do you guys invent a backstory for your characters? Like you could decide your character is in love with Meg Manning and stalk her while no one's watching...

The Card Guy: Not really, since as I mentioned before, our general movements were set up by the directors, which often meant we weren't always the same "character." I've had a number of different lockers over the different episodes. Also the first episode I worked on, I was actually a student of Pan High School during the Pan High cafeteria scenes...but I was also there in the Neptune High School gym during practice, and right before the big game I was alternating between Pan High and Neptune High, haha.

Our Signature Questions

MI.net: How much taller are you than Kristen Bell?

The Card Guy: 6 or 7 inches, maybe?

MI.net: Which is your favorite Backup: 1.0, 1.5, or 2.0? (We have photos of all three versions in the Backup bio.)

The Card Guy: It seems to me that 2.0 was the one that did all of the real ass kicking, so I choose 2.0.

[Editor's note: Someone finally shows Backup 2.0 some love.]

MI.net: You are buying the Veronica Mars DVDs, right? How excited will you be to be able to rewind and pause, rewind and pause, rewind and pause the DVDs so that you can show your friends, family members, priest, and mailman your part in the show?

The Card Guy: I will most definitely be getting the DVD set, if for no other reason than the fact that I've never been able to walk into a store and buy a DVD with me on it before! And maybe I'll even get to spot myself in some deleted scenes, since I have clear recollections of being in some shots that never made it into the final product.

[Editor's note: We can only imagine the titles for those deleted scenes: The Card Guy Hits on Meg, The Card Guy Drops His Backpack, Veronica Punches The Card Guy....]

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